Showing posts with label Guitarist interview. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Guitarist interview. Show all posts
Sunday, February 5, 2012
Rock's Come Back of the Year - Interview With Jimmy Ronnie From Iron Claw
Here's an interview conducted by fearless Ripple Scribe, Boogeyman, that originally ran on his own blog, Long Live Rock N Roll. Pop over there for more insights from the Boogs.
Being called Rock's "Come Back Bands of the Year" by Metal Odyssey, and having a string of great reviews from the likes of The Metal Minute, Rocktopia, and The Soda Shop just to name a few, I've been given the great pleasure to interview Iron Claw's guitarist and one of the band's original founding members, Jim Ronnie. As you'll find out, it's one hell of come back for these Proto Metal Pioneers indeed.
Boogs: As a musician myself that use to play in a band and have been out of the music scene for quite some time, what was the spark that ignited your desire to get the band back together after such a long time and start rockin' again?
Jimmy Ronnie: The last thing on my mind late 2009 was an Iron Claw reunion. I became aware of Rockadrome's release of the band's self titled CD and must admit to giving that little attention either. However, it became clear that there was indeed a lot of interest out there for our 1970's recorded back catalog. That was the spark that ignited the possibility of a reunion in my mind. I arranged a meeting of the surviving former band members and that was it! Iron Claw was reborn!
There wasn't much of a plan at that stage other than "let's record some new material and see how it goes". All that changed when Ripple Music got involved and suddenly we were now faced with the task of producing an album for world wide release on this new dynamic label.......wow!
Boogs: That's amazing! How are some things better now with Iron Claw than they were back in the day when you guys first started out?
Jimmy Ronnie: The internet is probably the biggest single change that has happened to music since 1979. Musicians now have a vehicle for getting their recorded music out to the world.
That didn’t exist during our first time around and record companies were practically the only way to get recordings heard. There were no CDs of course and pressing your own vinyl records was not a practical option. Even if that could be overcome, how do you distribute them?
On the negative side though, there are now a lot fewer live venues much less opportunity for bands to play. That’s a great shame. We need more live venues. That is how new young bands learn their craft and if they don’t get a chance to play live the standard of music will drop. Never mind TV talent shows. That’s not what it’s all about.
Boogs: Once again congrats on A Different Game being praised as the "Come Back Album of the Year" in the world of rock and classic rock. How does that feel? It's gotta be an extremely gratifying feeling. Especially being labeled "Proto-metal Pioneers." That's gotta be honor being a part of that.
Jimmy Ronnie: The reviews for “A Different Game” have been astounding. Almost universal acclaim which is about is good as it gets. A couple of Doom sites don’t seem to like us but we’re not a Doom band so that’s fine.
It is extremely gratifying as you say. It’s always nice to get applause for a performance and the music press has thrown themselves behind us 100%.
As for “Proto-metal Pioneers”, I guess that’s what we were but that’s not something that was ever considered at the time. I never thought about breaking new ground. We just did what we did and had a great time doing it.
It was obvious then though that the music was not mainstream and we didn’t always go down well. “Play something we know!” being a common cry from the unsuspecting audience. The response was usually “Fuck off, you’re getting hard rock whether you like it or not!” Ah… the arrogance of youth!
Boogs: Your new album A Different Game is quite different than your first album. What was the experience recording A Different Game as opposed to your first album? What was your guys' focus on this album, or was it just this music beast within just itching to get out and rock shit again?
Jimmy Ronnie: The main difference is that this is an album produced as a single project, in one studio, with a single line-up of musicians. It was all done in a relatively short period of time as well.
The Rockadrome album is a compilation of recorded work done during our first lifetime (1969 to 1974). As such it is a good mixture of styles and production techniques and shows the bands evolution through the first 5 years of our existence.
The focus on “A Different Game” was clear from the start. We wanted to produce a record that was pure Iron Claw and that was about capturing the live spirit of the band on record. This was about returning to our roots as a band rather than writing and recording about where we may find ourselves as changed individuals today.
Iron Claw is what was called for and Iron Claw is what was given. The end result is that we have produced an album for today. The spirit of the record is 40 years old but the sound is now. I’m very pleased with it as you can probably tell!
Boogs: Absolutely, and you have every reason to be! I definitely have my favorite tunes on A Different Game, one of them being the album's title track. What would you say is your definite song favorites writing as well as recording?
Jimmy Ronnie: I, too, like the title track which, together with “It’s Easy”, comes from a mid-90’s solo recording project of mine. A couple of the songs had been part of our 1970’s live set but never recorded in the studio. Some were recorded first time round in 1970 but never released.
This was actually our very first album recorded in Luton near London with Mike Waller on vocals. Some of the songs are brand new and written in the studio for this album. So some of the songs are old, some are new but all of them have been stripped bare and reworked for the album.
I don’t know if I’ve got any real favourites. It depends what kind of mood I’m in. “What Love Left” is definitely the right choice for the opener and single….straight to the point rock n roll! I like the Youtube promo video too (not everyone shares my opinion on that though!)
Boogs: I know you all played The Barlinnie Prison last October for charity. What else is in the works for Iron Claw?
Jimmy Ronnie: Yes. The official album launce was at Scotland’s largest prison in Glasgow. That was a very special night for us. A few hundred very sober prisoners gave us a frosty welcome to the stage. By the end of our set they were rockin' full on! That was immensely satisfying for us and hopefully we managed to plant a few seeds that night.
As we speak we are rehearsing with our new vocalist and hopefully it shouldn’t be long before we’re back on the road. Looking forward to that.
Ripple Music have offered us the chance to make another album. Their only stipulation being that it’s as “kick ass” as this one! That is some time away but we’re really looking forward to that as well.
It has been two years since we decided to reform. Two very intense, busy, yet satisfying years. Personally, up until Ripple Music came along I had given up all hope of fulfilling my dream and securing a recording and publishing deal. Just goes to show that you never know what's around the corner! As long as there is an audience for Iron Claw and we can still do it then it continues…..Here’s to the future!
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Yes, indeed, you never know what's around the corner, and as this year almost closes in, I can only suspect great things for the Iron Claw boys. There's is a great story, a very cool story that's not often told in rock. I personally love it. It takes courage and a big brass set of kahones to make a come back like Iron Claw has.
Once again, I'd like to thank Jimmy Ronnie for being gracious enough to take the time out to answer a few questions for this hard rock fan.
For more information on the Iron Claw band, visit the link to read their biography and get a healthy taste of some of their tunes featured on the their new cd release A Different Game!
Looking for the cd? Click the link to go to Ripple Music's store and grab your copy of Iron Claw: A Different Game released on Ripple Music now!
Sunday, May 22, 2011
Fantastic Fen Inteview from This is Rock Magazine
Hi Doug, this is Francisco from This Is Rock Magazine Spain. First of all, I must congratulate you for Trails Out Of Gloom. Given that the album was released some months ago, do you already have a perspective of what has it meant to your career?
Thanks, Francisco. Trails Out Of Gloom is Fen's fourth album, but it's our first to get much critical attention. For many listeners it's the first they've heard of us, and they think we must be a new band, when actually we've been around for well over a decade. In that way, Trails Out Of Gloom is a new beginning for us. The album title could be significant in the sense that we have spent many years milling about in dark obscurity, and now we have finally come into the light of the media's narrow gaze. Ah, the wonder of marketing!
- Given that this is your first interview to our magazine, it would be great if you could tell us about Fen's origins. How did you and Sam Levin meet, and what did you want to achieve?
Sam and I met back in 1998, in a little pot-smoking mountain town called Nelson. We were teenagers at the time, and we started Fen after a single jam, where we droned a riff in 5/4 for about 45 minutes. We both played guitar, we both worshiped Tool and GnR, and we were driven to create our own dark and complex sound. The union came without hesitation.
- How would you describe Fen's sound?
The current sound is plaintive and brooding. Heavy and light. Subject to change.
- 'Trails Out Of Gloom'... the thing is that, although definitively dark sounding, the new album has many acoustic passages that, somehow, enlightens the compositions, taking them out of the gloom that surrounds your previous works... Has this acoustic side of the album been in the composition from the beginning of the writing sessions?
Most of the songs on Trails Out Of Gloom began on classical guitar, and the original plan was to make an acoustic album. During moments of weakness though, I strayed from that initial plan and experimented with bits of distortion here and there, and once I'd heard those distorted layers, I couldn't do without them. My roots are in heavy music, and that primal pull was too strong to resist. The final recording ended up being an amalgamation of the two textures, heavy and light. I always loved those classical-sounding Metallica intro's, but I wanted them to carry on for longer, and I wanted them to develop more slowly, rather than cutting straight to the thrashing. In a way, Trails Out Of Gloom helps bridge that transition for me.
- Fen's lineup has gone through several changes throughout these years, though yourself and Sam have always been the band's core...Do you think that these changes brought new elements into the band's sound?
Everyone we've played with have been exceptional musicians who can't help but bring something new to the sound. At the same time, our approach to songwriting has changed with each recording. This combination of variables has resulted in a big gap between the chaos of our first album, Surgical Transfusion of Molting Sensory Reflections, and the measured progressions of Trails.
- Given the band's sound evolution... Have you got an idea of how will Fen sound in a couple of albums time?
We've been working on new material, and from a guitar perspective, it's heavier and proggier than Trails. Sam's been writing high energy rock/metal-type riffage. Also, for the first time since our 2003 album, Heron Leg, we're bringing bass and drums into the writing process much earlier. For anyone who's only heard Trails, the next album may be a shock.
- 'Trails Out Of Gloom' is an album that requires several listenings to be fully appreciated, and is a perfect example of what a "grower" is. Does the good music always need an extra effort in order to get into it?
It's a fine balance in songwriting, offering enough yum-yums in the first few listens to keep people coming back, but reserving the more exquisite treats for subsequent listens. I can't say that I know how it's done. The music for Trails took a long time to write - about three years. Perhaps that slow evolution into being can account for its "grower" status.
- For 'Trails Out Of Gloom' you have signed with Ripple Music. How was this contract forged? Do you plan to re-release your former albums with Ripple, so they could reach a wider audience?
I had contacted The Ripple Effect Blog a couple years ago, asking them to review our latest album at the time, Congenital Fixation. They came back with a killer review, then they requested an interview, and eventually they told us they were starting a label and wanted us to sign on. Their hard work and enthusiasm has helped us reach a lot of new listeners. And yes, we'll be re-releasing Congenital Fixation under the Ripple flag later this year.
- Remembering the fast and energetic entrance of 'Cockroach Eyelids' from the previous 'Congenital Fixation', I can do nothing else but wonder how you have taken that energy and embellished it with layers of emotional playing. Even the guitar parts seems to be more melodic. Is 'Trails Out Of Gloom' Fen's more intimate work?
With Congenital Fixation, Sam wrote the guitar parts and I wrote the vocals and the songs came together collaboratively. But with Trails, Sam was occupied with school and health issues, so I took up the guitar end as well. There's no doubt that he's a superior player, and I did everything I could to keep the standard high with my more limited skills, which included layering and different textures and a lot of attention to arrangement. As you've mentioned, the result was pretty different. I guess the intimacy of Trails can be attributed in part to the acoustic root of the songs, but also to the fact that I was working on it alone.
- Your voice has been truly improved all along these years, and it feels like you feel much more confident with your singing style... Do you agree with that?
Thanks for your kind words, Francisco. I'm always trying to improve my skills as a vocalist. That's what keeps me going - the thought that the best is yet to come. But as much as my skills might have improved, I think it might be that I've come closer to finding a musical landscape that allows my voice to explore its full range. If I was suddenly thrown into any number of bands that go strictly with power chords and driving beats, half my lines would disappear. I'd be a vocal cripple.
- It has been recorded a video for 'Miracle'... Why did you choose that song? What can you tell us about this video?
The guys at our label thought 'Miracle' was the strongest tune on the album, and when making a video on a tight budget, shorter is better, so it was an easy choice. The video features two marionettes in a miniature landscape constructed of rocks and sticks and brambles and whatever else we could grab from nearby parks and beaches. In this set, arranged on a 4ft by 6ft plywood board, the two puppets play out a story of decayed love. We made the video with the help of Mind of a Snail Puppet Co and a handful of friends. You can watch it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP4zO07MF3I
- Given the fact that 'Trails Out Of Gloom' was published more than half a year ago... Do you think that this is time to think about Fen's future plans?
Our biggest goal right now is getting our live sound up to snuff. To do that, we plan on making some short tours through western Canada over the next year, and expanding the periphery of our local shows. That, plus writing and recording a new album should keep us busy.
- Can you tell us something about the gigs that you played for 'Trails Out Of Gloom'? How would you describe a Fen gig?
We're still getting comfortable in the live setting. I don't think we've found what we are yet, live. Right now we're slowly adding new elements to the show to see how we can create a more Fen environment while we're up there. We've got a show tonight and we're going to try out some sound effects between songs. We've been wanting to incorporate some kind of visuals as well, but haven't found a way to begin yet. For us, the music comes first, and the entertainment aspect is a faraway second, so it will develop more slowly.
- Well, I Think it's all by now, Doug. Thanks a lot for your time, and wish you all the best. Have you got anything to say to your Spanish fans?
Gracias! We're honoured to have you as listeners. To stay in touch with Fen, join our email list at www.fenmusic.ca or "like" us at www.facebook.com/fenmusic. We have many more albums ahead of us.
Thanks, Francisco. Trails Out Of Gloom is Fen's fourth album, but it's our first to get much critical attention. For many listeners it's the first they've heard of us, and they think we must be a new band, when actually we've been around for well over a decade. In that way, Trails Out Of Gloom is a new beginning for us. The album title could be significant in the sense that we have spent many years milling about in dark obscurity, and now we have finally come into the light of the media's narrow gaze. Ah, the wonder of marketing!
- Given that this is your first interview to our magazine, it would be great if you could tell us about Fen's origins. How did you and Sam Levin meet, and what did you want to achieve?
Sam and I met back in 1998, in a little pot-smoking mountain town called Nelson. We were teenagers at the time, and we started Fen after a single jam, where we droned a riff in 5/4 for about 45 minutes. We both played guitar, we both worshiped Tool and GnR, and we were driven to create our own dark and complex sound. The union came without hesitation.
- How would you describe Fen's sound?
The current sound is plaintive and brooding. Heavy and light. Subject to change.
- 'Trails Out Of Gloom'... the thing is that, although definitively dark sounding, the new album has many acoustic passages that, somehow, enlightens the compositions, taking them out of the gloom that surrounds your previous works... Has this acoustic side of the album been in the composition from the beginning of the writing sessions?
Most of the songs on Trails Out Of Gloom began on classical guitar, and the original plan was to make an acoustic album. During moments of weakness though, I strayed from that initial plan and experimented with bits of distortion here and there, and once I'd heard those distorted layers, I couldn't do without them. My roots are in heavy music, and that primal pull was too strong to resist. The final recording ended up being an amalgamation of the two textures, heavy and light. I always loved those classical-sounding Metallica intro's, but I wanted them to carry on for longer, and I wanted them to develop more slowly, rather than cutting straight to the thrashing. In a way, Trails Out Of Gloom helps bridge that transition for me.
- Fen's lineup has gone through several changes throughout these years, though yourself and Sam have always been the band's core...Do you think that these changes brought new elements into the band's sound?
Everyone we've played with have been exceptional musicians who can't help but bring something new to the sound. At the same time, our approach to songwriting has changed with each recording. This combination of variables has resulted in a big gap between the chaos of our first album, Surgical Transfusion of Molting Sensory Reflections, and the measured progressions of Trails.
- Given the band's sound evolution... Have you got an idea of how will Fen sound in a couple of albums time?
We've been working on new material, and from a guitar perspective, it's heavier and proggier than Trails. Sam's been writing high energy rock/metal-type riffage. Also, for the first time since our 2003 album, Heron Leg, we're bringing bass and drums into the writing process much earlier. For anyone who's only heard Trails, the next album may be a shock.
- 'Trails Out Of Gloom' is an album that requires several listenings to be fully appreciated, and is a perfect example of what a "grower" is. Does the good music always need an extra effort in order to get into it?
It's a fine balance in songwriting, offering enough yum-yums in the first few listens to keep people coming back, but reserving the more exquisite treats for subsequent listens. I can't say that I know how it's done. The music for Trails took a long time to write - about three years. Perhaps that slow evolution into being can account for its "grower" status.
- For 'Trails Out Of Gloom' you have signed with Ripple Music. How was this contract forged? Do you plan to re-release your former albums with Ripple, so they could reach a wider audience?
I had contacted The Ripple Effect Blog a couple years ago, asking them to review our latest album at the time, Congenital Fixation. They came back with a killer review, then they requested an interview, and eventually they told us they were starting a label and wanted us to sign on. Their hard work and enthusiasm has helped us reach a lot of new listeners. And yes, we'll be re-releasing Congenital Fixation under the Ripple flag later this year.
- Remembering the fast and energetic entrance of 'Cockroach Eyelids' from the previous 'Congenital Fixation', I can do nothing else but wonder how you have taken that energy and embellished it with layers of emotional playing. Even the guitar parts seems to be more melodic. Is 'Trails Out Of Gloom' Fen's more intimate work?
With Congenital Fixation, Sam wrote the guitar parts and I wrote the vocals and the songs came together collaboratively. But with Trails, Sam was occupied with school and health issues, so I took up the guitar end as well. There's no doubt that he's a superior player, and I did everything I could to keep the standard high with my more limited skills, which included layering and different textures and a lot of attention to arrangement. As you've mentioned, the result was pretty different. I guess the intimacy of Trails can be attributed in part to the acoustic root of the songs, but also to the fact that I was working on it alone.
- Your voice has been truly improved all along these years, and it feels like you feel much more confident with your singing style... Do you agree with that?
Thanks for your kind words, Francisco. I'm always trying to improve my skills as a vocalist. That's what keeps me going - the thought that the best is yet to come. But as much as my skills might have improved, I think it might be that I've come closer to finding a musical landscape that allows my voice to explore its full range. If I was suddenly thrown into any number of bands that go strictly with power chords and driving beats, half my lines would disappear. I'd be a vocal cripple.
- It has been recorded a video for 'Miracle'... Why did you choose that song? What can you tell us about this video?
The guys at our label thought 'Miracle' was the strongest tune on the album, and when making a video on a tight budget, shorter is better, so it was an easy choice. The video features two marionettes in a miniature landscape constructed of rocks and sticks and brambles and whatever else we could grab from nearby parks and beaches. In this set, arranged on a 4ft by 6ft plywood board, the two puppets play out a story of decayed love. We made the video with the help of Mind of a Snail Puppet Co and a handful of friends. You can watch it on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP4zO07MF3I
- Given the fact that 'Trails Out Of Gloom' was published more than half a year ago... Do you think that this is time to think about Fen's future plans?
Our biggest goal right now is getting our live sound up to snuff. To do that, we plan on making some short tours through western Canada over the next year, and expanding the periphery of our local shows. That, plus writing and recording a new album should keep us busy.
- Can you tell us something about the gigs that you played for 'Trails Out Of Gloom'? How would you describe a Fen gig?
We're still getting comfortable in the live setting. I don't think we've found what we are yet, live. Right now we're slowly adding new elements to the show to see how we can create a more Fen environment while we're up there. We've got a show tonight and we're going to try out some sound effects between songs. We've been wanting to incorporate some kind of visuals as well, but haven't found a way to begin yet. For us, the music comes first, and the entertainment aspect is a faraway second, so it will develop more slowly.
- Well, I Think it's all by now, Doug. Thanks a lot for your time, and wish you all the best. Have you got anything to say to your Spanish fans?
Gracias! We're honoured to have you as listeners. To stay in touch with Fen, join our email list at www.fenmusic.ca or "like" us at www.facebook.com/fenmusic. We have many more albums ahead of us.
Sunday, February 6, 2011
A Sunday Conversation with Derin Dow
Guitar shredding, retro rocker Derin Dow hanging on the Ripple couch.
When I was a kid, growing up in a house with Cat Stevens, Neil Diamond, and Simon and Garfunkel, the first time I ever heard Kiss's "Detroit Rock City," it was a moment of musical epiphany. It was just so vicious, aggressive and mean. It changed the way I listened to music. I've had a few minor epiphany's since then, when you come across a band that just brings something new and revolutionary to your ears.
What have been your musical epiphany moments?
I can't point to one major one, but there have probably been several mini-epiphany moments. "Band On The Run" was the first song that really got my attention when I was about nine or so. I loved all the changes in that song, which ended up being the first 45 single I bought. Styx's "Lady" also stuck with me around that time, and I remember calling our local radio station to request it. One day my cousin brought over the album Focus: Live at the Rainbow, and when I first heard "Hocus Pocus," that was it for me. I was hooked; mostly on Jan Akkerman's guitar playing.I was also pleasantly amused by Van Leer's yodeling and impressed with his flute playing.
When I was about 13, I got Kiss Alive II and Hotel California, both of which I played over and over. After hearing the live version of "Shock Me," I went out and bought a used guitar for $15, smeared white toothpaste and red lipstick on my face, and pretended I was Ace. That ended up being the first song I ever learned on guitar.I also heard "Detroit Rock City" in 7th grade English class during a study of "poetry" around that time. That song also impressed me for all the same reasons you mentioned. Most of my other epiphany moments probably occurred going home on the school bus, just listening to the radio when FM was first becoming popular. I remember the first times I heard "Starship Trooper" (Yes), "Hold On" and "Lay It On The Line" (Triumph), and "Carry On Wayward Son" (Kansas), and thinking to myself what great songs they were. All of those songs resonated with me quite a bit. After that, I'd have to point to the opening track of Rush's 2112, and the opening cuts of Boston and Van Halen. Those debut albums blew my mind because of the great production, the songwriting, the guitar work, and the pure, raw energy.
Talk to us about the song-writing process for you. What comes first, the idea? A riff? The lyrics? How does it all fall into place?
Usually, it starts with noodling around on the guitar, coming up with a part that I like, a series of chords, then humming a little melody to go along with it. Then I'll try to create some lyrics to replace the humming and carry the melody. Lyrics are usually the hardest part for me, since I sometimes don't have much to say. When I first started songwriting, however, I'd do it in a different way. I would usually sit down and write some lyrics about a specific topic, and come up with a melody in my head at the same time. Then I'd go find the guitar chords to go with it. Those songs were more message-oriented, whereas now I tend to write more in terms of an overall vibe, and then just let the words follow.
Who has influenced you the most?
Pretty much anybody who was ever on Don Kirshner's Rock Concert back in the day! That's such a tough question though, because there have been so many, and the influences have changed over time as I've gone through different phases. I've probably spent more time listening to Kansas than any other band. But I don't really write in that style because it is so orchestrated, and I'm pretty much just a self-taught hack. When I first started playing guitar, southern rock was popular in my hometown, so after I had learned a bunch of Kiss songs, I ended up playing a fair amount of .38 Special, Molly Hatchet, Lynyrd Skynyrd, the Eagles, etc.. That's probably where I get the twang in my playing. Beyond those early influences, I'd have to point to a lot of the other rock acts of the 70s and 80s: Aerosmith, Foreigner, Rush, Van Halen, Sabbath, Zeppelin, Heart, the Doobie Brothers, Styx, Triumph, Tom Petty, REO, Ted Nugent, Eddie Money, Journey, Pink Floyd, Night Ranger, Ambrosia, Peter Frampton, Chicago, Atlanta Rhythm Section, Neil Young, Elton John, Jefferson Starship, April Wine, Steely Dan, etc.. (Did I mention Kansas?) The Who and the Stones were also in the mix to some extent, but I hesitate to say that they influenced my songwriting. I can't say the Beatles impacted me much either, because I've never owned one of their albums.
The first rock concert I ever saw was REO Speedwagon with .38 Special opening, so I'd be lying if I said that didn't influence me. Both bands were really great that night. It was in 1980 at Freedom Hall in Louisville, KY, and I had just turned 16. Gary Richrath impressed me a lot that night with his playing, and Cronin was very solid as well. 38 Special was promoting Rockin' into the Night but hadn't recorded "Hold On Loosely" yet; so they were kinda 'up-and-coming' at that time and not really all that well known. I think they influenced me by how they became more popular in the following years when they started putting out a lot of great songs that were getting a lot of airplay in the Midwest.
It's sometimes hard to admit now, but I've also been influenced to some extent by the singer-songwriters and soft rock groups of the 70s, like America, Firefall, Jim Croce, etc.. I actually got into bands like Ace, Player, Orleans, and Pablo Cruise. Beyond that, I really came to appreciate some of the other progressive stuff out there like the Dregs, Steve Morse, Eric Johnson, Allan Holdsworth, King Crimson, the UK, and even Pat Metheny, though I'm certainly not on a par with those players. When I was about 21, I switched to playing bass for a few years, so there are some influences there as well; Geddy Lee, Jack Blades, Jeff Berlin, Stu Hamm, Jaco, etc.. but again, I can't play as well as those guys, except for Jack maybe! (ha, ha..) In the 90s, I listened to Dream Theater and Vertical Horizon quite a bit, so they've left a meaningful impression also.
Where do you look for continuing inspiration? New ideas, new motivation?
Every day that I get up at 6:00 AM to go to my day job serves as a sort of motivation for me; knowing that I would rather be doing my music as a career instead; if only it would pay the bills. The frustration of that experience gives me a fair amount of motivation to try to figure out how to create an avenue out of it. Sometimes, it gives me ideas for songs as well. The first song on Retroactive, "Friday" is probably a good example of that frustration. I tend to write when I'm unhappy, but not so much when I'm feeling good. Once in awhile, I'll write a happy song, but usually that's not the norm. Occasionally when I'm out driving around or jogging, I'll get some ideas for a song that just pop into my head. I also tend to get ideas when I'm just jamming by myself.
Otherwise, I just listen to music that I like to feel inspired. There's not a lot going on right now musically with the newer bands that I relate to, so I tend to look back to the 70s, 80s, and a little to the 90s for inspiration. My wife likes to tell me that I'm stuck in the 70s, but I don't mind since I tend to think that's when a lot of the best rock music was created. Lately, I've been listening to some of the older Rush material, especially Hemispheres, which is probably my favorite album of theirs. I've also been listening to Winger's third album, Pull, from the early 90s, just enjoying the different guitar sounds that Reb got on those tunes. I also listen to Eric Johnson's albums fairly often. Even though he's known for being an accomplished guitarist, I actually like the laid-back quality of his vocals as well. I tend to prefer Tones or Venus Isle these days. I also get inspired by Robert Plant's Principle of Moments album from time to time, mostly for its sparseness and basic 3-piece approach. I also love Steve Morse's High Tension Wires, which makes me realize how much room I have to grow as a guitarist and songwriter. I'm pretty much all over the map when it comes to music I like, because I also enjoy stuff like Donald Fagen's The Night Fly or maybe some Pat Metheny, Seal, or Sade if I'm in the mood. It's all inspiring for me.
When it comes to vocals, I still get inspired when I go back and listen to some of the older recordings of guys like Steve Walsh, Lou Gramm, David Pack, and Geddy Lee. I also like Paul Carrack's voice. They're all great singers in my book, and very inspirational for me personally. Occasionally, I'll also go back and listen to Ozzy on something like Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, which I consider to be an excellent album.
Genre's are so misleading and such a way to pigeonhole bands. Without resorting to labels, how would you describe your music?
I've heard it described by some people as "Foreigner meets Ambrosia meets the Eagles" or something like that. I've heard others compare it to Triumph or Aldo Nova. Both of those descriptions are probably in the ballpark stylistically, but production-wise, my recordings certainly aren't on a par with those bands due to my budget issues (i.e. no label, no backing, etc..). It's basically just rock, but each song is somewhat unique stylistically, so they don't all fit nicely into one simple category. If one wants to narrow it down, then I suppose it might be described as "semi-progressive, yet mostly straight-ahead melodic classic rock with a few fusion elements thrown in here and there, alongside a moderate dose of southern twang." It certainly has its share of vocal harmonies and guitar solos, which makes it more classic/retro than most of what we hear today with modern rock.
It's probably safe to say that I sometimes combine a singer-songwriter approach with a full band, arena-rock mentality, (if such a thing is possible), which I hope is something a bit unique, even though not all of my songs would fit that description. Songs like "Highways," "Door To Your Heart," and "River Of Time" all start out in singer-songwriter mode, but then they build into either big choruses or semi-prog instrumental jams. Some have multiple bridges. It may be confusing for some folks, but it makes perfect sense to me, since it tends to represent the sum total of my influences. It's definitely not a psychedelic or blues thing.
What is you musical intention? What are you trying to express or get your audience to feel?
It's a therapeutic thing for me mostly. I don't have a big, calculated intention other than trying to get some deep emotions off my chest from things I've experienced in my life. At the same time, I'd like to think that some of my songs will connect with other people who might be going through some of the same things as me; like a divorce, or maybe an estranged relationship of some sort, or even some kind of spiritual awakening. When I was 18, I had a near-death experience brought on by prolonged drug use, which really changed me on a spiritual level so that now I view my life and my songs in a different way. I value life more than I did when I was a reckless, depressed teen. Some of my songs have subtle, or not-so-subtle spiritual messages in them, mostly just trying to lead people towards God and love, and his ways of looking at things; as opposed to the opposite of that, which, unfortunately, is what "rock-n-roll" is often associated with. I also hope to write some songs that enable people to have some fun along the way as well.
Come on, share with us a couple of your great, Spinal Tap, rock and roll moments?
This is a tough one, since I don't remember much from all the hazy times back in the day. Well, one time, when I was about 17, I got so high before a show that when I went to put my gear in the car to leave, I set my guitar case down on the ground behind the trunk of my '74 Chevy Malibu. Then I loaded my amp and a few other things into the backseat, jumped in the car, started it up, and promptly backed up over top of my brand new Washburn A-20 guitar! I was so wasted that I didn't even realize what it was until I had pulled forward and ran it over a second time! Oh yeah, the guitar! Duh.. The neck actually ended up being okay, but all the control knobs were smashed and the body was all caved in near the input jack. What was amazing was that Harvey Jett, (the former lead guitarist from Black Oak Arkansas whom I was playing with that night) actually fixed the electronics on that guitar in time for the start of the show! Thanks Harvey!
Another memorable time was when we were all wearing spandex pants back in the mid- to late-80s. The lead singer of our band had a habit of not wearing any underwear beneath his spandex in order to promote the details of his manhood to all the ladies. Unfortunately for him, he also enjoyed imitating many of the moves of David Lee Roth, Steven Tyler, and Bon Jovi. One night, he did a big jump and landed while doing the splits, and his spandex pants ripped right in the crotch! Luckily for him, he also wore several bandanas on his wrists and neck, so he was able to cover himself until the set was over with a little American flag.
This may not rank as a Spinal Tap moment, but you may find it to be a rather amusing story nonetheless. After I first moved to L.A. in '89, I got recruited to play bass by this band called the Waifs. (Not the one out of England). They were a hippie group fronted by a girl singer and her husband/guitarist. Their whole act was predicated on the '60s flower-child movement thing. They were trying to bring all that peace and free love stuff back, so I had to play my role. It wasn't really my cup of tea musically, but they had a decent following, a manager, a lawyer, and a few connections with RCA/Arista, so I went along for the ride; even though I would go home after a rehearsal or a gig and revert to listening to my favorite bands of the day, one of which was Night Ranger. So, one night, we were playing a showcase for some industry people at the old China Club in Hollywood. Our chick singer was always trying to fiddle with the way I dressed in order to make me fit in better with the overall 60s concept. So, this night she convinced me to wear these low-slung, reddish-purple, velvet pants, with no shirt, and a really weird hat with some odd-looking jewelry, along with some big black boots. I looked really ridiculous, but I went along with it for the sake of flower power resurgence. Our whole act was really quite silly in retrospect, as we had several hippie-chick dancers on stage, a girl with a rainstick, a bongo player, etc.. Anyway, after our set was over, I walked off the stage and went down to the bar to order a beer. Then I said hello to the guy sitting next to me, who turned out to be, of all people, Brad Gillis, lead guitarist of Night Ranger! I felt like a complete fool in my 'retro' get-up, but he didn't really care. Turned out he was bumming out since Night Ranger had just broken up, and they were trying to reform it without Blades, who had already gone on to form Damn Yankees. He said they were probably going to work with Fran Sheehan, the former bassist from the band Boston, but I don't think that ever panned out. I saw them a year or two later at the FM Station in the valley as a 3-piece with a different guy (Gary somebody?) on bass/vocals.
What makes a great song?
If it gives me goosebumps, or moves me in some way, then I know it's great. It doesn't matter what it's about or what the style is really. I've loved everything from "Sunshine" (John Denver) to "Killing Yourself To Live" (Black Sabbath) and all points in between. The best songs usually have a simple message that gets communicated in a sincere way by the artist. McCartney has always been really talented at this. "Silly Love Songs" might be a good example. On the other hand, if a song sounds contrived; like somebody was just trying to write a hit for the sake of having a hit and making some money, then that usually comes across too; so it tends to be a forgettable song.
Also I would have to say that a great song usually has lyrics and a vocalist involved, but not always. I've always thought that "Frankenstein," (Edgar Winter Group) is an amazing rock instrumental piece. To me, that's also a great song. But usually, there is a lyrical message involved that strikes an emotional chord with people.
Some songs might be great from a technical standpoint in terms of the proficiency of the players and the complexity of the arrangements, but at the same time, they might be lacking an emotional connection with the listener. For me, that's where a Van Halen song, (like "Mean Street" for example), might have more meaning than an artful, classically-influenced masterpiece that Yngwie Malmsteen may have written/recorded. Eddie VH has always had a knack for playing from the heart, even with all of the hammer-ons and pull-offs, whereas somebody like Malmsteen plays from a more schooled perspective, which for me, doesn't really have the same impact on an emotional level. (I must say, however, that I did enjoy his Odyssey album back in the 80s when he had Joe Lynn Turner singing).
Who today, writes great songs? Who just kicks your ass? Why?
That's a great question, and even though his style is not my style, I'd have to say John Mayer. Not only is he a really good guitarist, he writes some real hi-quality pop songs that most people can relate to. His style is not as heavy as what I would normally listen to, but I have to give him props for being one of the best out there today. Lyrically, I think he's able to phrase things and say things in a way that packs a lot of meaning into fewer words. He's also got great ideas for the vocal melodies and song structures, and his performances on the recordings are spot on. He definitely kicks my ass.
Whiskey or beer? And defend your choice
These days, I'm just a beer man. When I was a teenager looking to get drunk, it would have been Maker's Mark or Jim Beam straight outta the bottle. But now, given that I have children to consider, a regular teaching job, and a liver that's been through its fair share of abuse, it's mostly just Coors Light or Bud Light for me with dinner. If I'm feeling adventurous, I'm might down a Heineken or two, but only if I don't have to work the next day. Pretty lame, I know.
We, at the Ripple Effect, are constantly looking for new music. What's your home town, and when we get there, what's the best record store to lose ourselves in?
My hometown is Madison, Indiana, but I've lived in Los Angeles now for over 21 years; so I've pretty much lost track of what's been going on back home. If I had to guess, I'd say that Wal-Mart has probably taken over half of the town, so it may very well be the only place to buy music of any kind nowadays. Back in the 80s, we went to a place downtown called Madison Music, but they're probably gone by now. If you're planning to visit there, I'd recommend that you go during the July 4th weekend for the Madison Regatta so that you can enjoy the hydroplane boat races on the Ohio River. (October is also a good time, when the leaves are changing). There's an Americana artist there by the name of Rusty Bladen who has put out several albums along the lines of Neil Young, John Prine, etc.. He's a main staple in the music community there, and a former roommate and band-mate of mine. (Remember the spandex story?) But again, as for a record store.. who knows? It's really a small town.
Any final comments or thoughts you'd like to share with our readers, the waveriders?
Thanks for reading all of this and for checking out my music. I'm working on another album right now, which I hope to complete sometime before the summer is over. I think it will probably be more cohesive stylistically compared to the previous album, and will hopefully sound better sonically as well. Feel free to visit my website at www.derindow.com for more info, and feel free to order a copy of Retroactive while you're at it. (We've got T-shirts too). Oh, and have a great 2011!
Sunday, December 19, 2010
A Sunday Conversation with Massy Ferguson
On the red leather Interview couch, Massy Ferguson.
Ethan Anderson: vocals, bass
Adam Monda: guitar, vocals
Dave Goedde: drums
When I was a kid, growing up in a house with Cat Stevens, Neil Diamond, and Simon and Garfunkel, the first time I ever heard Kiss's"Detroit Rock City," it was a moment of musical epiphany. It was just so vicious, aggressive and mean. It changed the way I listened to music. I've had a few minor epiphany's since then, when you come across a band that just brings something new and revolutionary to your ears.
What have been your musical epiphany moments?
ADAM: Well, I grew up with seven older brothers who experienced me to music at an early age. When I say music, to my brothers, it was The Who. I was raised with the ever present blasting of Tommy or Quadrophenia always in the back ground. What a powerful band that at the same time could be destructive and melodic. I still love the Who, and Qudrophenia is still blasting in the background for me. I guess an epiphany for me came later in the 80's when a band called Big Country came out with their single 'In a Big Country'. They were awesome guitar players and it seemed nobody was playing guitar in the 80's. The
melodic guitar riffs and expansive sound made me want to learn to play guitar.Not just play guitar, but play in a rock band.
Talk to us about the song-writing process for you. What comes first ,the idea? A riff? The lyrics? How does it all fall into place?
ADAM: For me, it works both ways. Sometimes I start with a riff or some chords and say hmmmm what do I have here? Sometimes I'll have a melody and jot some words down or I just have the riff and call Ethan and say do your thing to this. This kind of writing can be frustrating and time consuming but often ends up for
the better because everyone in the band can chip in and help out. Sometimes (not often enough) the magic happens and I pick up my guitar and a riff, chords, and words are mysteriously teleported in my head? From where? Keanu Reeves in the Matrix? Spock? I' not sure, don't care. I am thankful to them. This is the
most exiting kind of writing to me because it is spontaneous and you don't ruin it by thinking about it to much. You can really think a song to death.
Who has influenced you the most?
ADAM: When I really started playing guitar and writing songs it was all Paul Westerberg and the Replacements. The albums of Let it Be, Tim, and Pleased toMeet Me, simply inspired me. The Replacements were all I really listened to for along time. Their songs were honest, interesting, funny, and often sad. Always done in a don't give a shit attitude. They are rock in all the glory....and misery.
ETHAN: Good point. With Adam's instrumental song ideas, it's clear that he's influenced by 80s college rock and bands like the Replacements. Him and Dave got me into Paul Westerberg. I we all have our individual influences but when we first started playing, I think we all gravitated somewhat to 70s southern
rock. That doesn't mean we're trying to be the next Skynryd, because that will never happen. But it's definitely made a dent in our overall sound too.
Where do you look for continuing inspiration? New ideas, new motivation?
ETHAN: I think you can find it anywhere. For me, it mostly comes from words, situations. Sometimes you'll hear someone say something and you'll think "that's lyrical." With our song "Wenatchee Eyes" it came from when we played a winery in Eastern Washington and everyone in attendance was getting hammered. This trashy girl was drinking straight out of the bottle, falling off her chair and giving us this drunken, sexy look. Wenatchee was the closest town to this place, maybe that's why Adam looked at me and said, "man, she's giving us Wenatchee Eyes." We both were like, "that's gotta be a song title." And it was ...
Genre's are so misleading and such a way to pigeonhole bands. Without resorting to labels, how would you describe your music?
ETHAN: I like to think of us as rock first, twang second. We're at our best with up tempo songs that evoke broken bottles, fisticuffs, hooting and hollering. We also have songs that are more slow and earnest. Most of all, we're our own take on rock americana, songs that sounds good in a lot of different places: A dive bar with a drink in your hand, a outdoor concert in the park on a hot day, a block party, etc.
What is you musical intention? What are you trying to express or get your audience to feel?
ETHAN: Personally, as far as lyrics, I'm trying to tell stories from where I grew up in a small town in Washington state. We have a particular brand of crazy here that makes for interesting subject matter. I want to represent what it's like to be from here, live here, and accumulate stories here. I think we're trying to be honest with the lyrics without losing that rough edge. I don't see the world as being all roses, I see the world as a messed up place with occasional extraordinary moments. For me, most of my extraordinary moments
have been playing music.
Come on, share with us a couple of your great, Spinal Tap, rock and roll moments?
ETHAN: The moment that comes to mind was when we played Europe in 2007. Our first show was at a youth hostel outside of Amsterdam called Camping Zeeburg. We should have known by the name that it was a campground for stoners who were too baked to do anything but drewel and play checkers. It was like playing an insane asylum. What was Spinal Tap-esque was that we couldn't find real drums for Dave, so he had to play our friend's electronic drums. Dave kept messing up the settings, sometimes he'd hit a drum pad and it would sound like trash cans clanking, other times like animals making noises.
The show was ... how can I say, unorthodox. It's amazing how electronic drums can have 1,000 different sounds, but none that sound like actual drums :) That show was also distinct because it's the first place that ever gave us 36 drink tickets. We're only a four piece, so you get the idea.
What makes a great song?
ETHAN: A great song is a combination of completely original and tastefully derivitive. When I say derivitive, I mean vaguely reminiscent of other great songs in the past. I recently heard Black Keys' "Unknown Brother" for the first time and I had this sad longing for something I couldn't place. It felt like a lost song that I had loved as a kid but hadn't heard in years. That's pretty impressive because it's a new song. It's hard to pinpoint one specific thing all great songs have. A great doesn't always need to have amazing lyrics, but
when it does, you get that deeper bond with it. A great song can change your life.
Tell us about the first song you ever wrote?
ETHAN: Speaking of great songs ... my first was not. The first song I ever wrote was back in 1993 with my buddy Levi, when we were in high school. It was called "Why?" and, since I was really into Pearl Jam at the time, I tried to make it sound like I was Eddy Vedder singing. I think I even did one of those grunge "yeah-hah-hah" vamps. Think the lost Collective Soul song and you pretty much got the idea. Not my best work. I'd like to think I've improved since then. Me and him were always emulating guys that we liked, like most young songwriters. Levi had a song "I Want You Back Yeah, Yeah" that we used to sing that was kind of Best Kissers in the World inspired. I recently started hanging out with Gerald Collier, the former front man of Best Kissers in the World... maybe I should tell him I know where he can find his long-lost song :)
What piece of your music are particularly proud of?
ETHAN: Without a doubt the song I'm most proud of on our album is Freedom County. It is about some misguided militia guys who tried to break away from the county where I grew up and make their own rouge county. I always loved the story. It was so frontier, so emblematic of the anti-government attitude
of so many people in the northwest. Although I thought the guys were kinda insane, I admired their pluck. I tried to write the song from the perspective of both sides, tried to make it pretty even handed. I'm proud of what the end result was. Some people think it's the best track on our album.
Who today, writes great songs? Who just kicks your ass? Why?
DAVE: I still think Ryan Adams can write some pretty great stuff when hewants to. Craig Finn from the Hold Steady creates a pretty evocative world in his songs. Jay Farrar of Son Volt continues to write some pretty amazing stuff.
Vinyl, CD, or digital? What's your format of choice?
DAVE: In a perfect world, we'd have the convenience of digital with the sound of vinyl. But I do think something has been lost with digital, unfortunately. The experience of taking out the record, putting it on the turntable and listening to it all the way through, maybe looking at the artwork while you're listening. You couldn't immediately skip the next song if it didn't grab you out of the gate. No random playlists; you were listening to one artist's work for a sustained period. The digital thing encourages less engagement with a single
work, and more flipping-about. Which I guess is perfect for our ADD culture.
We,at the Ripple Effect, are constantly looking for new music. What's your home town, and when we get there, what's the best record store to lose ourselves in?
DAVE: Definitely Easy Street Records on lower Queen Anne in Seattle.
Whiskey or beer? And defend your choice
DAVE: Never really thought of it as an either/or proposition, but...generally, beer is the drink of choice with this band. We sweat a lot on stage, so beer is probably the better drink to replace those bodily fluids...
ETHAN: Beer is like our Gatorade, without the benefits (electrolites) and with quite a few drawbacks (hangovers, beer gut)
Ethan Anderson: vocals, bass
Adam Monda: guitar, vocals
Dave Goedde: drums
When I was a kid, growing up in a house with Cat Stevens, Neil Diamond, and Simon and Garfunkel, the first time I ever heard Kiss's"Detroit Rock City," it was a moment of musical epiphany. It was just so vicious, aggressive and mean. It changed the way I listened to music. I've had a few minor epiphany's since then, when you come across a band that just brings something new and revolutionary to your ears.
What have been your musical epiphany moments?
ADAM: Well, I grew up with seven older brothers who experienced me to music at an early age. When I say music, to my brothers, it was The Who. I was raised with the ever present blasting of Tommy or Quadrophenia always in the back ground. What a powerful band that at the same time could be destructive and melodic. I still love the Who, and Qudrophenia is still blasting in the background for me. I guess an epiphany for me came later in the 80's when a band called Big Country came out with their single 'In a Big Country'. They were awesome guitar players and it seemed nobody was playing guitar in the 80's. The
melodic guitar riffs and expansive sound made me want to learn to play guitar.Not just play guitar, but play in a rock band.
Talk to us about the song-writing process for you. What comes first ,the idea? A riff? The lyrics? How does it all fall into place?
ADAM: For me, it works both ways. Sometimes I start with a riff or some chords and say hmmmm what do I have here? Sometimes I'll have a melody and jot some words down or I just have the riff and call Ethan and say do your thing to this. This kind of writing can be frustrating and time consuming but often ends up for
the better because everyone in the band can chip in and help out. Sometimes (not often enough) the magic happens and I pick up my guitar and a riff, chords, and words are mysteriously teleported in my head? From where? Keanu Reeves in the Matrix? Spock? I' not sure, don't care. I am thankful to them. This is the
most exiting kind of writing to me because it is spontaneous and you don't ruin it by thinking about it to much. You can really think a song to death.
Who has influenced you the most?
ADAM: When I really started playing guitar and writing songs it was all Paul Westerberg and the Replacements. The albums of Let it Be, Tim, and Pleased toMeet Me, simply inspired me. The Replacements were all I really listened to for along time. Their songs were honest, interesting, funny, and often sad. Always done in a don't give a shit attitude. They are rock in all the glory....and misery.
ETHAN: Good point. With Adam's instrumental song ideas, it's clear that he's influenced by 80s college rock and bands like the Replacements. Him and Dave got me into Paul Westerberg. I we all have our individual influences but when we first started playing, I think we all gravitated somewhat to 70s southern
rock. That doesn't mean we're trying to be the next Skynryd, because that will never happen. But it's definitely made a dent in our overall sound too.
Where do you look for continuing inspiration? New ideas, new motivation?
ETHAN: I think you can find it anywhere. For me, it mostly comes from words, situations. Sometimes you'll hear someone say something and you'll think "that's lyrical." With our song "Wenatchee Eyes" it came from when we played a winery in Eastern Washington and everyone in attendance was getting hammered. This trashy girl was drinking straight out of the bottle, falling off her chair and giving us this drunken, sexy look. Wenatchee was the closest town to this place, maybe that's why Adam looked at me and said, "man, she's giving us Wenatchee Eyes." We both were like, "that's gotta be a song title." And it was ...
Genre's are so misleading and such a way to pigeonhole bands. Without resorting to labels, how would you describe your music?
ETHAN: I like to think of us as rock first, twang second. We're at our best with up tempo songs that evoke broken bottles, fisticuffs, hooting and hollering. We also have songs that are more slow and earnest. Most of all, we're our own take on rock americana, songs that sounds good in a lot of different places: A dive bar with a drink in your hand, a outdoor concert in the park on a hot day, a block party, etc.
What is you musical intention? What are you trying to express or get your audience to feel?
ETHAN: Personally, as far as lyrics, I'm trying to tell stories from where I grew up in a small town in Washington state. We have a particular brand of crazy here that makes for interesting subject matter. I want to represent what it's like to be from here, live here, and accumulate stories here. I think we're trying to be honest with the lyrics without losing that rough edge. I don't see the world as being all roses, I see the world as a messed up place with occasional extraordinary moments. For me, most of my extraordinary moments
have been playing music.
Come on, share with us a couple of your great, Spinal Tap, rock and roll moments?
ETHAN: The moment that comes to mind was when we played Europe in 2007. Our first show was at a youth hostel outside of Amsterdam called Camping Zeeburg. We should have known by the name that it was a campground for stoners who were too baked to do anything but drewel and play checkers. It was like playing an insane asylum. What was Spinal Tap-esque was that we couldn't find real drums for Dave, so he had to play our friend's electronic drums. Dave kept messing up the settings, sometimes he'd hit a drum pad and it would sound like trash cans clanking, other times like animals making noises.
The show was ... how can I say, unorthodox. It's amazing how electronic drums can have 1,000 different sounds, but none that sound like actual drums :) That show was also distinct because it's the first place that ever gave us 36 drink tickets. We're only a four piece, so you get the idea.
What makes a great song?
ETHAN: A great song is a combination of completely original and tastefully derivitive. When I say derivitive, I mean vaguely reminiscent of other great songs in the past. I recently heard Black Keys' "Unknown Brother" for the first time and I had this sad longing for something I couldn't place. It felt like a lost song that I had loved as a kid but hadn't heard in years. That's pretty impressive because it's a new song. It's hard to pinpoint one specific thing all great songs have. A great doesn't always need to have amazing lyrics, but
when it does, you get that deeper bond with it. A great song can change your life.
Tell us about the first song you ever wrote?
ETHAN: Speaking of great songs ... my first was not. The first song I ever wrote was back in 1993 with my buddy Levi, when we were in high school. It was called "Why?" and, since I was really into Pearl Jam at the time, I tried to make it sound like I was Eddy Vedder singing. I think I even did one of those grunge "yeah-hah-hah" vamps. Think the lost Collective Soul song and you pretty much got the idea. Not my best work. I'd like to think I've improved since then. Me and him were always emulating guys that we liked, like most young songwriters. Levi had a song "I Want You Back Yeah, Yeah" that we used to sing that was kind of Best Kissers in the World inspired. I recently started hanging out with Gerald Collier, the former front man of Best Kissers in the World... maybe I should tell him I know where he can find his long-lost song :)
What piece of your music are particularly proud of?
ETHAN: Without a doubt the song I'm most proud of on our album is Freedom County. It is about some misguided militia guys who tried to break away from the county where I grew up and make their own rouge county. I always loved the story. It was so frontier, so emblematic of the anti-government attitude
of so many people in the northwest. Although I thought the guys were kinda insane, I admired their pluck. I tried to write the song from the perspective of both sides, tried to make it pretty even handed. I'm proud of what the end result was. Some people think it's the best track on our album.
Who today, writes great songs? Who just kicks your ass? Why?
DAVE: I still think Ryan Adams can write some pretty great stuff when hewants to. Craig Finn from the Hold Steady creates a pretty evocative world in his songs. Jay Farrar of Son Volt continues to write some pretty amazing stuff.
Vinyl, CD, or digital? What's your format of choice?
DAVE: In a perfect world, we'd have the convenience of digital with the sound of vinyl. But I do think something has been lost with digital, unfortunately. The experience of taking out the record, putting it on the turntable and listening to it all the way through, maybe looking at the artwork while you're listening. You couldn't immediately skip the next song if it didn't grab you out of the gate. No random playlists; you were listening to one artist's work for a sustained period. The digital thing encourages less engagement with a single
work, and more flipping-about. Which I guess is perfect for our ADD culture.
We,at the Ripple Effect, are constantly looking for new music. What's your home town, and when we get there, what's the best record store to lose ourselves in?
DAVE: Definitely Easy Street Records on lower Queen Anne in Seattle.
Whiskey or beer? And defend your choice
DAVE: Never really thought of it as an either/or proposition, but...generally, beer is the drink of choice with this band. We sweat a lot on stage, so beer is probably the better drink to replace those bodily fluids...
ETHAN: Beer is like our Gatorade, without the benefits (electrolites) and with quite a few drawbacks (hangovers, beer gut)
Sunday, October 10, 2010
A Sunday Conversation with Silian Rail
Silian Rail burst forth on the excellent Parks and Records Label, blowing my mind with their minimalist, yet remarkably full, instrumental excursions to the end of sound and sanity. Naturally, We drooled a little with Robin (guitar) and Eric (drums) dropped on by the Ripple office for a chat.
When I was a kid, growing up in a house with Cat Stevens, Neil Diamond, and Simon and Garfunkel, the first time I ever heard Kiss's "Detroit Rock City," it was a moment of musical epiphany. It was just so vicious, aggressive and mean. It changed the way I listened to music. I've had a few minor epiphany's since then, when you come across a band that just brings something new and revolutionary to your ears.
What have been your musical epiphany moments?
E - Too many to list quickly! the cassette copy of Nevermind that my babysitter Raven gave me, hearing Mr. Bungle for the first time, witnessing the multi-instrument virtuosity of my junior high classmate Erick Walls, seeing Bonnie Prince Billy perform recently, and Ani DiFranco, first time I heard Cocorosie, Aphex Twin, saw Ches Smith play drums, etc. etc. Musical epiphanies (as a listener) and eye openers come often for me.
R- Back in the day, Team Dresch was a big eye opener. It was the first time I had heard a band of the queercore/riot grrl/pacific NW scene combine that punk attitude with actually interesting and complex
music, and it blew my mind. There have been many of those moments along the way, with one of the more recent ones being Worker Bee, who are a band form San Jose. They used to be kind of a standard
loud/quiet/loud post-rock band, then recently released an album which was a total reinvention. Beside the fact that it is a totally unusual, spooky and beautiful record, in was inspiring to see a band take such a big risk and totally and successfully change their approach to making music.
Talk to us about the song-writing process for you. What comes first, the idea? A riff? The lyrics? How does it all fall into place?
E - For us, we use this metaphor-- Robin brings the Oranges and Grapefruits, Eric makes the Juice. The songs start out as long, intricate, maze like parts, and then we play them trying out various feels, beginning to chop up and arrange, add and subtract notes and beats, evolve melodies, create dialogue, space, tension, etc. This all happens fairly organically through the process of just playing the parts over and over until they feel right, intuitively. We go with our gut.
Where do you look for continuing inspiration? New ideas, new motivation?
E - Musically speaking, in large part through our peers and friends. We are blessed to be part of a community of incredibly talented and endlessly creative musicians in Oakland and San Francisco, and hearing
them play (be it at shows, or next door to us in the practice space) is constantly inspiring. As we tour this family continues to expand too, and we never cease to be amazed at the extent and breath of inspiring and friendly musicians there are out there.
Extra-musically, the range is wide-- nature, books about mental illness, jokes, bicycling, family.....
Genre's are so misleading and such a way to pigeonhole bands. Without resorting to labels, how would you describe your music?
E - We sound like if you could simultaneously have a feeling of deep longing, restlessness and intense confusion, yet also feel content, at peace, and like everyone and everything in the world is beautiful. Or you know, at our best we hope to someday sound like that.or A thunderstorm in the southeast as it swells to its peak and then tapers in to still warm air and rainbows.
R - Instrumental music comprised of guitar/drums/synth and sometimes glock. Complex interplay and syncopation between instruments, atypical song structures. Sometimes agressive, sometimes fragile, always melodic and thoughtful (we hope.)
What is you musical intention? What are you trying to express or
get your audience to feel?
E -We are trying to create an experience that is in equal parts emotive, cathartic and intellectually stimulating/provocative.
R - I hope that we are making music that is equally enjoyable to someone listening on a very casual level; as well as the closer or more musically minded listener, and making either example feel something, be it happy/sad/bittersweet/whatever.
Come on, share with us a couple of your great, Spinal Tap, rock and roll moments?
E - Being completely lost in the pitch black woods of Olympia, WA in the middle of the night after a generator show, both with muscle tearing amounts of gear in hand, and about a half mile to go to the car. In spite of his verbal optimism, Eric was pretty much completely lost, forgot how far they had to go, and was mostly following the places he could see audience members had peed on their way out.
What makes a great song?
Sincerity.
Tell us about the first song you ever wrote?
E - We got together with no intentions of forming a band, just to play.Robin played a song she had written years ago from start to finish.Eric played along and was instantly flooded with a thousand ideas and shaken loose from a period of musical stagnation. It came together seemingly instantly (minus one tricky part that required a bit of analysis and explanation) and is still in rotation today, only slightly edited from the way it was performed accidentally the very first time.
What piece of your music are particularly proud of?
E - The song we wrote most recently, which goes the widest ranges of places a single song of ours ever has before, somehow (hopefully, to us at least) without feeling disjointed. One of the first times we played it our friend said it scared him and he asked why we would write something like that. I *think* it was intended as a compliment.
R - Agreed. Our newest song took the longest-ever-to-write prize, and I think it shows. In a good way. Other examples would be songs form the new album - "Moth and Rust" and "The Gift." I think those two were moments of real clarity.
Vinyl, CD, or digital? What's your format of choice?
E- Ideally, for sound and aesthetics and tactile pleasure and generating a thoughtful listening experience, Vinyl. Though we understand the immense practicality of digital formats.
R- I think I might be the last person alive who enjoys owning CDs. I especially love huge free piles of them on the street, left by SanFrancisco folk who are tired of schlepping them from apartment to apartment.
E- I kind of agree with that too.
We, at the Ripple Effect, are constantly looking for new music. When we come to your town, what's the best record store to lose ourselves in?
E - Aquarius (SF) and Amoeba (Berkeley or SF).
Any final comments or thoughts you'd like to share with our readers, the waveriders?
E - Be true to yourself.
www.parksandrecords.com
www.myspace.com/parksandrecordsmyspace
When I was a kid, growing up in a house with Cat Stevens, Neil Diamond, and Simon and Garfunkel, the first time I ever heard Kiss's "Detroit Rock City," it was a moment of musical epiphany. It was just so vicious, aggressive and mean. It changed the way I listened to music. I've had a few minor epiphany's since then, when you come across a band that just brings something new and revolutionary to your ears.
What have been your musical epiphany moments?
E - Too many to list quickly! the cassette copy of Nevermind that my babysitter Raven gave me, hearing Mr. Bungle for the first time, witnessing the multi-instrument virtuosity of my junior high classmate Erick Walls, seeing Bonnie Prince Billy perform recently, and Ani DiFranco, first time I heard Cocorosie, Aphex Twin, saw Ches Smith play drums, etc. etc. Musical epiphanies (as a listener) and eye openers come often for me.
R- Back in the day, Team Dresch was a big eye opener. It was the first time I had heard a band of the queercore/riot grrl/pacific NW scene combine that punk attitude with actually interesting and complex
music, and it blew my mind. There have been many of those moments along the way, with one of the more recent ones being Worker Bee, who are a band form San Jose. They used to be kind of a standard
loud/quiet/loud post-rock band, then recently released an album which was a total reinvention. Beside the fact that it is a totally unusual, spooky and beautiful record, in was inspiring to see a band take such a big risk and totally and successfully change their approach to making music.
Talk to us about the song-writing process for you. What comes first, the idea? A riff? The lyrics? How does it all fall into place?
E - For us, we use this metaphor-- Robin brings the Oranges and Grapefruits, Eric makes the Juice. The songs start out as long, intricate, maze like parts, and then we play them trying out various feels, beginning to chop up and arrange, add and subtract notes and beats, evolve melodies, create dialogue, space, tension, etc. This all happens fairly organically through the process of just playing the parts over and over until they feel right, intuitively. We go with our gut.
Where do you look for continuing inspiration? New ideas, new motivation?
E - Musically speaking, in large part through our peers and friends. We are blessed to be part of a community of incredibly talented and endlessly creative musicians in Oakland and San Francisco, and hearing
them play (be it at shows, or next door to us in the practice space) is constantly inspiring. As we tour this family continues to expand too, and we never cease to be amazed at the extent and breath of inspiring and friendly musicians there are out there.
Extra-musically, the range is wide-- nature, books about mental illness, jokes, bicycling, family.....
Genre's are so misleading and such a way to pigeonhole bands. Without resorting to labels, how would you describe your music?
E - We sound like if you could simultaneously have a feeling of deep longing, restlessness and intense confusion, yet also feel content, at peace, and like everyone and everything in the world is beautiful. Or you know, at our best we hope to someday sound like that.or A thunderstorm in the southeast as it swells to its peak and then tapers in to still warm air and rainbows.
R - Instrumental music comprised of guitar/drums/synth and sometimes glock. Complex interplay and syncopation between instruments, atypical song structures. Sometimes agressive, sometimes fragile, always melodic and thoughtful (we hope.)
What is you musical intention? What are you trying to express or
get your audience to feel?
E -We are trying to create an experience that is in equal parts emotive, cathartic and intellectually stimulating/provocative.
R - I hope that we are making music that is equally enjoyable to someone listening on a very casual level; as well as the closer or more musically minded listener, and making either example feel something, be it happy/sad/bittersweet/whatever.
Come on, share with us a couple of your great, Spinal Tap, rock and roll moments?
E - Being completely lost in the pitch black woods of Olympia, WA in the middle of the night after a generator show, both with muscle tearing amounts of gear in hand, and about a half mile to go to the car. In spite of his verbal optimism, Eric was pretty much completely lost, forgot how far they had to go, and was mostly following the places he could see audience members had peed on their way out.
What makes a great song?
Sincerity.
Tell us about the first song you ever wrote?
E - We got together with no intentions of forming a band, just to play.Robin played a song she had written years ago from start to finish.Eric played along and was instantly flooded with a thousand ideas and shaken loose from a period of musical stagnation. It came together seemingly instantly (minus one tricky part that required a bit of analysis and explanation) and is still in rotation today, only slightly edited from the way it was performed accidentally the very first time.
What piece of your music are particularly proud of?
E - The song we wrote most recently, which goes the widest ranges of places a single song of ours ever has before, somehow (hopefully, to us at least) without feeling disjointed. One of the first times we played it our friend said it scared him and he asked why we would write something like that. I *think* it was intended as a compliment.
R - Agreed. Our newest song took the longest-ever-to-write prize, and I think it shows. In a good way. Other examples would be songs form the new album - "Moth and Rust" and "The Gift." I think those two were moments of real clarity.
Vinyl, CD, or digital? What's your format of choice?
E- Ideally, for sound and aesthetics and tactile pleasure and generating a thoughtful listening experience, Vinyl. Though we understand the immense practicality of digital formats.
R- I think I might be the last person alive who enjoys owning CDs. I especially love huge free piles of them on the street, left by SanFrancisco folk who are tired of schlepping them from apartment to apartment.
E- I kind of agree with that too.
We, at the Ripple Effect, are constantly looking for new music. When we come to your town, what's the best record store to lose ourselves in?
E - Aquarius (SF) and Amoeba (Berkeley or SF).
Any final comments or thoughts you'd like to share with our readers, the waveriders?
E - Be true to yourself.
www.parksandrecords.com
www.myspace.com/parksandrecordsmyspace
Sunday, August 29, 2010
Guitar Talk - With Underground Guitar Hero Jim Gustafson of Poobah
Revered by many, but unknown by most, Poobah's Jim Gustafson is a guitar player who's style has morphed over the years. With the re-issue of the classic 1972 Poobah debut, Let Me In, looming in the very near future, we thought it might be nice to sit down with Jim Gustafson, the grand Poobah himself, and pick his brain a little on his approach to tackling the chores of being the band's sole six-string slinger for nearly forty years.
I saw the Beatles on TV, at a young age, and my sister and her hot friends were going crazy over them. Right then I said to myself, I want to play guitar.
How quickly did you pick up playing the guitar? Did guitar playing come naturally, or was there a struggle involved?
I learned fairly quickly, as I really was drawn to it. I would say I had some natural ability, and was able to learn things at a very quick pace. It also helped, that where I grew up, there were some excellent players I would go see live, often. You can learn so much from watching others. I do not recall any difficulty, as I would gladly grab the guitar and go for it, every day. I still love to play, and grab a guitar most every day. This really helps in the songwriting department, as ideas come when you are just messing around.
What was the first guitar you owned?
My first guitar was very hard to play. It was a cheap, unnamed brand of acoustic, with strings set far from the neck, making it hard to play. My grandmother watched me try to play it anyway, and often. After about 4 weeks, she then purchased me a really nice National red electric, and it was a totally easy guitar to play, making my learning move ahead quickly. I started out taking jazz lessons as a sight reader, and then also took a few lessons from a rock guitarist, which really sent me up the path I wanted to be on. I wanted to be able to get up on stage and rock.
What kind of gear do you use? Guitar? Amp? Effects?
I have owned close to 35 guitars, but now I prefer, Carvin, Jackson, Hamer, Peavey electrics, and Martin, and Ovation acoustic guitars. I usually use a Carvin H-2 24 fret guitar live, and in the studio. There are more brands I am interested in, but the ones I am using are good to play live and record with. I own 3 Marshall amps, a Fender, Peavey, and even an Esteban amp. On stage I prefer newer Marshall 4 channel amps, but I also love my 1974 Marshall all tube 50 watt head, and Marshall 4x12 cabinets with Celestion 75 watt speakers. I own lots of effects pedals, and use many of them to achieve some wild sounds. Morley wah pedals and volume pedals are great, and I like Dunlop tremolo, DOD flanger, Line 6 echo with looping, Boss octave divider, Tech 21 compressor/distortion, Zoom multi effects and a few others. I like to play some complicated guitar riffs, and then add some flavor with effects, here and there. My newer Marshall has effects built in, for even more flavors of sound.
Do you play in standard tuning or do you use an alternate tuning? If so, why?
In recent years, I use alternate tuning, to have a bit heavier tone, tuning down a half step. On earlier Poobah albums I was in standard tuning. I like the sound of either, depending on what type of project I will be playing on.
What piece of gear can’t you live without? What’s your “secret” weapon?
My secret weapon is my ears and hands. I feel that I can play most any guitar/amp setup , and get a pretty decent sound, as long as the gear is working properly. In fact, I love to play lots of different guitars/amps, when I can. It always gives me perspective on what someone else thought was a good setup. There is so much to learn, and so little time.
Who are your primary influences? Guitarists, musicians?
For me, the Beatles, Stones, Yardbirds, Jethro Tull, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, James Gang, King Crimson, were early influences, and then when I discovered many unusual players, meaning far from the style of the radio stars. I was and still am fond of listening to jazz, new age, and lots of technically challenging rock. Some players I like are Michael Hedges, Phil Keaggy, Steve Morse, John McLaughlin, Allan Holdsworth, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, and many others. So much great music to absorb. Lots of great unknown players I like, too.
When performing solos, are you aware of where you’re going or are playing purely by mood and feel?
After playing for many years, you can almost map out where you are going in your head, and hear the changes that signify a different key, or tone center. I also love to improvise, which changes the music a lot. I try to capture the feel and mood of the recording, and then make it more fun for myself, by improvising many parts on the fly. Some songs call for a close to the recorded part, and if it is a signature section, then you should play it as close to the record as possible, for the audience who wants to hear it that way.
What words of wisdom do you have for young (and old) guitar players who are just getting started?
There are so many tools out there these days for guitarists. You can learn at an incredible rate, if you have the passion. Videos, Youtube, books, all will take you to the next level fairly quickly, if you are willing to put in the practice time. If I could give advice, it would be to try to find your own sound. If you are the best at covering someone else, it may not give you your own voice. There’s no shame in being a cover artist, and probably will get you more work. However, if you want to be remembered for your music, you should try to write good songs, and strive to have your own sound and style.
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Sunday, August 22, 2010
A Sunday Conversation with Behind the Sun
Powerful. Beautiful. Heavy and evocative. Those were just some of the adjectives that ran through my mind the first (second, third . . . ) time I played the dynamite new album from Israel's Behind the Sun. Mixing heavy, post-grunge rock with prog tendencies, some beautiful ambient guitar work and a love of jam bands, Behind the Sun are an intoxicating blend of many styles of rock that all seem to blend effortlessly into one grand vision.
Joining us today, are Aaron (guitar) and Gad (vocals) to enlighten us on all things Behind the Sun.
When I was a kid, growing up in a house with Cat Stevens, Neil Diamond, and Simon and Garfunkel, the first time I ever heard Kiss's "Detroit Rock City," it was a moment of musical epiphany. It was just so vicious, aggressive and mean. It changed the way I listened to music. I've had a few minor epiphany's since then, when you come across a band that just brings something new and revolutionary to your ears.
What have been your musical epiphany moments?
Gad: One epiphany moment would surely be the first time I heard The Beatles - Revolver on the old stereo, on vinyl, with the headphones on my head. And the following shock waves - The Doors, The Who, Zeppelin, Mad Season, Tool, Opeth and Pearl Jam
Aaron: I would have to say the first time I heard Miles Davis' Bitches Brew. I think I was 17. I was like "what the [expletive] is THIS??? What I am hearing here??? Is this even LEGAL??? It was like nothing else I'd ever heard.
Talk to us about the song-writing process for you. What comes first, the idea? A riff? The lyrics? How does it all fall into place?
Aaron: I read an article once about Jimi Hendrix where his producer said when Jimi wrote the music first the songs were awesome and when he wrote the lyrics first it was incredibly hard after that to fit the ideas into a song format. I find that this is a very common problem. The music tends to suggest the lyrics but not the opposite. So I almost always start with a riff or two --- then I look for a clever line to put in the chorus and go from there. We wrote and rewrote the lyrics to our song "The Professionals" from the album 3 or 4 times, keeping only the chorus from draft to draft. As heavy or convoluted as some of the riffs may be, I'm a big believer in a catchy chorus and title.
Where do you look for continuing inspiration? New ideas, new motivation?
Gad:For me, getting to know a new word or a new phrase in English will sometimes spark an idea or better say - will be the missing piece in a puzzle that's been laying in my head.Other than that, when I find myself traveling across the country, mostly to remote and unfamiliar locations, I get inspiration from the sights, the people and the colors.
Aaron: Almost all of my ideas come from current events and relationships with people in my life. Although I am writing a song for the NEXT album about Brian Wilson which I think is going to be pretty crazy.
Your music seems to very deeply reflect the area where you live, can you talk to us about that?
Gad:Naturally, our music will reflect what we experience in this turmoiled region. We find it hard to write without what's weighting on our hearts and minds finding it's way into the music and the lyrics. we try to avoid dealing with the politics, not only because we all have different point of view on how the problems can be solved, but mostly because we're trying to end songs with a more optimistic message...
Aaron: I have to say there's a lot of pessimism and cynicism in the lyrics I wrote but that may be more of personal problem...
Gad: Another way for us to try and deal with the problems of this region, is to go back to the old stories of this great country and draw inspiration and guidance from past victories and failures.
Aaron: I can tell you that Gad's song "15th dawn" is about his reserve duty in the army and "Wishful Thinking" was inspired by the incredibly stupid leadership this country had at the time of the 2nd Lebanon War. After that it gets more abstract but the influence of the middle east is in there.
What is your musical intention? What are you trying to express or get your audience to feel?
Gad:It depends. If it's a personal song, a song that deals with relationships, friends and life in general - It's more of a sharing-the-experince kind of thing - "here's what I feel/think about what's probably going on with your life too".When the song's more about failing rulers or anti-war, we're trying to pass a different message to whomever's listening, whether the listener's from Israel or not from around - let's learn some lessons learned with pain and suffer, let's do this differently.
In songwriting, how do you bring the song together? What do you look for in terms of complexity? Simplicity? Time changes?
Aaron: I usually bring in riffs for a verse and chorus to the band and then we figure out where we want to take it. Sometimes we change the tempo completely and go off in a different direction entirely. I'm a big believer in keeping the big themes simple in terms of music and lyrics because I think it has more of a powerful impact. That said, time changes can bring a bit of spice to the music and grab the listener and demand his or her attention for a particular section or transition. I also like odd time signatures because they can instill a unusual feeling in the audience, like the 5/4 time in the verses of "Still" for example. The beginning and end of "Wishful Thinking" also involve some unusual time signatures, which I think pushes the listener off balance a bit and gives a feeling of being on a lurching cruise ship. At least that's how I was feeling that day.
How's the Israeli music scene?
Gad:First of all, it's important to say we do have a very vibrant and various music scene here. Besides the local oriental Mediterranean music and pop music, there are 2 major scenes in the Israeli rock - metal and indie.
The Israeli metal scene is full of good bands, some are around for quite a while now (Salem, Orphaned Land and Almana Sh'chora/"Black Widow") and some are not active for that long but are doing quite well such as The Fading that won the 2009 Waken Festival battle of the bands and Betzefer (signed with Roadrunner records). Without a doubt, the biggest, most successful representative from this scene would be Orphaned Land. They are signed up with Century Media and they're playing the biggest metal festivals all over he world.
Israeli indie rock has it's fair share of successful bands/artists but it's a more .... indie success. Names such as Asaf Avidan & the Mojos, Rockfour, Eatliz and Izabo have all enjoyed some success in and outside of Israel.
As a result, we have 2 kind of festivals, metal or indie, all year around.
Aaron: I love Israeli music (Infectzia, Barry Saharov, Arik Einstein, Shalom Hanoch, Amir Benayoun) but sadly I don't think it has any influence at all on what I'm writing. I didn't grow up on Israeli rock like the rest of the band. My mother was listening to the most commercial and banal Israeli pop when I was a child and I preferred Iron Maiden and Metallica.
Come on, share with us a couple of your great, Spinal Tap, rock and roll moments?
Aaron: We had a bass player who was in another band at the same time and we both booked shows on the same day. He was supposed to play with his other band hours before our show but of course there was a delay and he only made it to the end of our set. But the show must go on so we borrowed a bass from the opening band and passed it around each song between myself and the other lead guitarist each song trading off who was playing the bass. It required some setlist and mental gymnastics. By some chance, we spotted our ex-bass player in the audience also and we also brought him on stage to play a song with us.
There's that and also a near riot we played to at a poorly organized "co-existence" festival in Lod. The show was put on in a vacant lot in a run-down area of the city not far from the most notorious open air drug markets in the country. Some kids in the audience of thousands of impatient locals tried to rush the stage causing problems for the acts playing. Some other friendly people in the crowd lit dumpsters on fire to show their appreciation. The band before us had some not so wonderful things to say about the police and the country in general. So by the time it got around to our slot the police decided to shut down the show and disperse the crowd. Not sure we would've survived that one anyway so maybe its for the best. Needless to say we haven't been invited back to Lod.
What makes a great song?
Gad:A well balanced mixture of sweeping energetic music, a chorus filled with hooks and mind grabbing lyrics
Aaron:You should feel like you are somewhere else... someone else. you are telling a story (or reporting a story maybe). Even if its an instrumental. Stravinsky was telling a story too without words. (OK he had ballet dancers. We don't have that kind of a budget here.)
Tell us about the first song you ever wrote?
Aaron:The first song I ever wrote that got played by a band I was in was called 1984. I think I had just read the novel in class in 7th grade. Maybe it wasn't the most original song (or title, or concept) but it was very encouraging to play a song you wrote in front of an audience. Even if they had no idea what the hell the singer was singing.
Gad:So far I can only speak lyrics wise. The first song I wrote for the band (and made it in) was a song called "Sunflower". The song sort of portrayed my desire or my efforts to get the best out of close people when you know they have a lot more to offer, a much bigger potential. I was so proud when it got Aaron's care musically.
We played Sunflower live for a while but looking back at it, the song wasn't *that* good....I guess it was more of a stepping stone for us on our way to writing, arranging and executing better songs.
What piece of your music are particularly proud of?
Gad: I can't really put my finger on a specific song (again, I'm only speaking lyrics-wise). I'm proud of any of the songs I wrote that made it in and are still being played by the band, just as I'm proud of any of the songs we play in general, where I feel I contributed a little bit to it's progress with a vocal line or with a little part for an instrument.
One particular example which I still remember with a lot of joy is the time we played "Strong Wind", at the time still a "regular" song, in a rehearsal and I started "stretching" the lines, to ease some of the tension. It almost immediately resulted in the song turning into a jam and made it easier to turn it into a platform in which we could show our love for jam-rock (Dead, Phish, Gov't Mule, Allman Brothers)
Aaron: I'm very proud of my guitar solos in "Still" and "Strong Wind". For years I was the "rhythm guitar" player until my good friend Assaf pushed me in the direction of writing and playing leads. I'm still light years behind Assaf but I like to think I am at least moving in the right direction.
Who today, writes great songs? Why?
Gad: Music-wise, I can think of a few bands/artists that really caught my ear -
Jack White with the Racontures - Jack White, in general, is a very talented musician but his work with the Racontures really stands out in my mind. Though his feet stand firmly in the muddy banks of the delta blues, he somehow found the way to reach all the way to 2000's and with lots of catchy melodies and real passion in his singing and guitar playing - he won me over. The Racontures's 2nd album is really awesome.
Josh Homme - Whether with QOTSA, Kyuss, Desert Sessions or the latest outfit The Crooked Vultures - Homme always finds the twisted, interesting way to introduce you into his vision of how rock music should sound.
Mikael Ã…kerfeldt/Opeth - with memorizing melodies, vocal harmonies, beloved progressive parts and highly executed music in general were the first to open up a bridge for me to cross into heavy metal, heavier than I ever listened to before.
Lyrics wise I always thought Chris Cornell and Eddie Vedder write beautiful songs. so far, minus Cornell's "Scream" material, they hardly ever failed to deliver the goods.
Aaron: Most of the music I listen to is from about 1950 (dawn of cool jazz and bebop) - 1980 (the end of the road for most progressive rock and 60s bands) but of the "new" music I'd agree with Gad about Opeth. I also like Hiromi (Japanese piano phenom). She just made an album with Stanley Clarke who I loved in Return to Forever. Strangely the "new" music I listen to is usually metal so I'd say Tool, Mastodon, Opeth ...
Vinyl, CD, or digital? What's your format of choice?
Gad: Spin the black circle! :-)
Aaron: I understand the vinyl concept as a purer analog wave. On the other hand, why buy a vinyl record of an album which was recorded using ProTools and take it home and play it on your dinky record player which your Grandma threw out in 1965? I suspect that there's a huge nostalgia factor or a hipness factor there. On the other hand there is an advantage to playing the cd and not mp3 which is I tend to think the CD format encourages you to listen to the entire album in order as the artist intended. Nobody really uses the random function on a single cd player, do they?
We, at the Ripple Effect, are constantly looking for new music. When we come to your town, what's the best record store to lose ourselves in?
Gad:Where I live (Rehovot, about 20 km south of Tel Aviv) there aren't many record stores and only one store ("Panica") you can maybe lose youself in if you're into vinyls like me but in Tel Aviv you can for sure lose youself looking for goodies in the 3rd Ear store ("Ha'ozen Hashlishit").
Aaron: I'm very impressed by Ktzat Acheret ("a little different") in Tel Aviv on Frishman St and also the Metal Shop on the same street a few doors down. 3rd Ear is great too.
Any final comments or thoughts you'd like to share with our readers, the waveriders?
Gad:Don't ever put aside your instrument/iPod/mp3 player/cd player/record player. Let music blow your mind and take you places. Always look for the next band/artist that will excite you and support them.
Aaron: Don't be afraid to edit and revise your music, lyrics, and yourself.
Joining us today, are Aaron (guitar) and Gad (vocals) to enlighten us on all things Behind the Sun.
When I was a kid, growing up in a house with Cat Stevens, Neil Diamond, and Simon and Garfunkel, the first time I ever heard Kiss's "Detroit Rock City," it was a moment of musical epiphany. It was just so vicious, aggressive and mean. It changed the way I listened to music. I've had a few minor epiphany's since then, when you come across a band that just brings something new and revolutionary to your ears.
What have been your musical epiphany moments?
Gad: One epiphany moment would surely be the first time I heard The Beatles - Revolver on the old stereo, on vinyl, with the headphones on my head. And the following shock waves - The Doors, The Who, Zeppelin, Mad Season, Tool, Opeth and Pearl Jam
Aaron: I would have to say the first time I heard Miles Davis' Bitches Brew. I think I was 17. I was like "what the [expletive] is THIS??? What I am hearing here??? Is this even LEGAL??? It was like nothing else I'd ever heard.
Talk to us about the song-writing process for you. What comes first, the idea? A riff? The lyrics? How does it all fall into place?
Aaron: I read an article once about Jimi Hendrix where his producer said when Jimi wrote the music first the songs were awesome and when he wrote the lyrics first it was incredibly hard after that to fit the ideas into a song format. I find that this is a very common problem. The music tends to suggest the lyrics but not the opposite. So I almost always start with a riff or two --- then I look for a clever line to put in the chorus and go from there. We wrote and rewrote the lyrics to our song "The Professionals" from the album 3 or 4 times, keeping only the chorus from draft to draft. As heavy or convoluted as some of the riffs may be, I'm a big believer in a catchy chorus and title.
Where do you look for continuing inspiration? New ideas, new motivation?
Gad:For me, getting to know a new word or a new phrase in English will sometimes spark an idea or better say - will be the missing piece in a puzzle that's been laying in my head.Other than that, when I find myself traveling across the country, mostly to remote and unfamiliar locations, I get inspiration from the sights, the people and the colors.
Aaron: Almost all of my ideas come from current events and relationships with people in my life. Although I am writing a song for the NEXT album about Brian Wilson which I think is going to be pretty crazy.
Your music seems to very deeply reflect the area where you live, can you talk to us about that?
Gad:Naturally, our music will reflect what we experience in this turmoiled region. We find it hard to write without what's weighting on our hearts and minds finding it's way into the music and the lyrics. we try to avoid dealing with the politics, not only because we all have different point of view on how the problems can be solved, but mostly because we're trying to end songs with a more optimistic message...
Aaron: I have to say there's a lot of pessimism and cynicism in the lyrics I wrote but that may be more of personal problem...
Gad: Another way for us to try and deal with the problems of this region, is to go back to the old stories of this great country and draw inspiration and guidance from past victories and failures.
Aaron: I can tell you that Gad's song "15th dawn" is about his reserve duty in the army and "Wishful Thinking" was inspired by the incredibly stupid leadership this country had at the time of the 2nd Lebanon War. After that it gets more abstract but the influence of the middle east is in there.
What is your musical intention? What are you trying to express or get your audience to feel?
Gad:It depends. If it's a personal song, a song that deals with relationships, friends and life in general - It's more of a sharing-the-experince kind of thing - "here's what I feel/think about what's probably going on with your life too".When the song's more about failing rulers or anti-war, we're trying to pass a different message to whomever's listening, whether the listener's from Israel or not from around - let's learn some lessons learned with pain and suffer, let's do this differently.
In songwriting, how do you bring the song together? What do you look for in terms of complexity? Simplicity? Time changes?
Aaron: I usually bring in riffs for a verse and chorus to the band and then we figure out where we want to take it. Sometimes we change the tempo completely and go off in a different direction entirely. I'm a big believer in keeping the big themes simple in terms of music and lyrics because I think it has more of a powerful impact. That said, time changes can bring a bit of spice to the music and grab the listener and demand his or her attention for a particular section or transition. I also like odd time signatures because they can instill a unusual feeling in the audience, like the 5/4 time in the verses of "Still" for example. The beginning and end of "Wishful Thinking" also involve some unusual time signatures, which I think pushes the listener off balance a bit and gives a feeling of being on a lurching cruise ship. At least that's how I was feeling that day.
How's the Israeli music scene?
Gad:First of all, it's important to say we do have a very vibrant and various music scene here. Besides the local oriental Mediterranean music and pop music, there are 2 major scenes in the Israeli rock - metal and indie.
The Israeli metal scene is full of good bands, some are around for quite a while now (Salem, Orphaned Land and Almana Sh'chora/"Black Widow") and some are not active for that long but are doing quite well such as The Fading that won the 2009 Waken Festival battle of the bands and Betzefer (signed with Roadrunner records). Without a doubt, the biggest, most successful representative from this scene would be Orphaned Land. They are signed up with Century Media and they're playing the biggest metal festivals all over he world.
Israeli indie rock has it's fair share of successful bands/artists but it's a more .... indie success. Names such as Asaf Avidan & the Mojos, Rockfour, Eatliz and Izabo have all enjoyed some success in and outside of Israel.
As a result, we have 2 kind of festivals, metal or indie, all year around.
Aaron: I love Israeli music (Infectzia, Barry Saharov, Arik Einstein, Shalom Hanoch, Amir Benayoun) but sadly I don't think it has any influence at all on what I'm writing. I didn't grow up on Israeli rock like the rest of the band. My mother was listening to the most commercial and banal Israeli pop when I was a child and I preferred Iron Maiden and Metallica.
Come on, share with us a couple of your great, Spinal Tap, rock and roll moments?
Aaron: We had a bass player who was in another band at the same time and we both booked shows on the same day. He was supposed to play with his other band hours before our show but of course there was a delay and he only made it to the end of our set. But the show must go on so we borrowed a bass from the opening band and passed it around each song between myself and the other lead guitarist each song trading off who was playing the bass. It required some setlist and mental gymnastics. By some chance, we spotted our ex-bass player in the audience also and we also brought him on stage to play a song with us.
There's that and also a near riot we played to at a poorly organized "co-existence" festival in Lod. The show was put on in a vacant lot in a run-down area of the city not far from the most notorious open air drug markets in the country. Some kids in the audience of thousands of impatient locals tried to rush the stage causing problems for the acts playing. Some other friendly people in the crowd lit dumpsters on fire to show their appreciation. The band before us had some not so wonderful things to say about the police and the country in general. So by the time it got around to our slot the police decided to shut down the show and disperse the crowd. Not sure we would've survived that one anyway so maybe its for the best. Needless to say we haven't been invited back to Lod.
What makes a great song?
Gad:A well balanced mixture of sweeping energetic music, a chorus filled with hooks and mind grabbing lyrics
Aaron:You should feel like you are somewhere else... someone else. you are telling a story (or reporting a story maybe). Even if its an instrumental. Stravinsky was telling a story too without words. (OK he had ballet dancers. We don't have that kind of a budget here.)
Tell us about the first song you ever wrote?
Aaron:The first song I ever wrote that got played by a band I was in was called 1984. I think I had just read the novel in class in 7th grade. Maybe it wasn't the most original song (or title, or concept) but it was very encouraging to play a song you wrote in front of an audience. Even if they had no idea what the hell the singer was singing.
Gad:So far I can only speak lyrics wise. The first song I wrote for the band (and made it in) was a song called "Sunflower". The song sort of portrayed my desire or my efforts to get the best out of close people when you know they have a lot more to offer, a much bigger potential. I was so proud when it got Aaron's care musically.
We played Sunflower live for a while but looking back at it, the song wasn't *that* good....I guess it was more of a stepping stone for us on our way to writing, arranging and executing better songs.
What piece of your music are particularly proud of?
Gad: I can't really put my finger on a specific song (again, I'm only speaking lyrics-wise). I'm proud of any of the songs I wrote that made it in and are still being played by the band, just as I'm proud of any of the songs we play in general, where I feel I contributed a little bit to it's progress with a vocal line or with a little part for an instrument.
One particular example which I still remember with a lot of joy is the time we played "Strong Wind", at the time still a "regular" song, in a rehearsal and I started "stretching" the lines, to ease some of the tension. It almost immediately resulted in the song turning into a jam and made it easier to turn it into a platform in which we could show our love for jam-rock (Dead, Phish, Gov't Mule, Allman Brothers)
Aaron: I'm very proud of my guitar solos in "Still" and "Strong Wind". For years I was the "rhythm guitar" player until my good friend Assaf pushed me in the direction of writing and playing leads. I'm still light years behind Assaf but I like to think I am at least moving in the right direction.
Who today, writes great songs? Why?
Gad: Music-wise, I can think of a few bands/artists that really caught my ear -
Jack White with the Racontures - Jack White, in general, is a very talented musician but his work with the Racontures really stands out in my mind. Though his feet stand firmly in the muddy banks of the delta blues, he somehow found the way to reach all the way to 2000's and with lots of catchy melodies and real passion in his singing and guitar playing - he won me over. The Racontures's 2nd album is really awesome.
Josh Homme - Whether with QOTSA, Kyuss, Desert Sessions or the latest outfit The Crooked Vultures - Homme always finds the twisted, interesting way to introduce you into his vision of how rock music should sound.
Mikael Ã…kerfeldt/Opeth - with memorizing melodies, vocal harmonies, beloved progressive parts and highly executed music in general were the first to open up a bridge for me to cross into heavy metal, heavier than I ever listened to before.
Lyrics wise I always thought Chris Cornell and Eddie Vedder write beautiful songs. so far, minus Cornell's "Scream" material, they hardly ever failed to deliver the goods.
Aaron: Most of the music I listen to is from about 1950 (dawn of cool jazz and bebop) - 1980 (the end of the road for most progressive rock and 60s bands) but of the "new" music I'd agree with Gad about Opeth. I also like Hiromi (Japanese piano phenom). She just made an album with Stanley Clarke who I loved in Return to Forever. Strangely the "new" music I listen to is usually metal so I'd say Tool, Mastodon, Opeth ...
Vinyl, CD, or digital? What's your format of choice?
Gad: Spin the black circle! :-)
Aaron: I understand the vinyl concept as a purer analog wave. On the other hand, why buy a vinyl record of an album which was recorded using ProTools and take it home and play it on your dinky record player which your Grandma threw out in 1965? I suspect that there's a huge nostalgia factor or a hipness factor there. On the other hand there is an advantage to playing the cd and not mp3 which is I tend to think the CD format encourages you to listen to the entire album in order as the artist intended. Nobody really uses the random function on a single cd player, do they?
We, at the Ripple Effect, are constantly looking for new music. When we come to your town, what's the best record store to lose ourselves in?
Gad:Where I live (Rehovot, about 20 km south of Tel Aviv) there aren't many record stores and only one store ("Panica") you can maybe lose youself in if you're into vinyls like me but in Tel Aviv you can for sure lose youself looking for goodies in the 3rd Ear store ("Ha'ozen Hashlishit").
Aaron: I'm very impressed by Ktzat Acheret ("a little different") in Tel Aviv on Frishman St and also the Metal Shop on the same street a few doors down. 3rd Ear is great too.
Any final comments or thoughts you'd like to share with our readers, the waveriders?
Gad:Don't ever put aside your instrument/iPod/mp3 player/cd player/record player. Let music blow your mind and take you places. Always look for the next band/artist that will excite you and support them.
Aaron: Don't be afraid to edit and revise your music, lyrics, and yourself.
Sunday, August 1, 2010
Guitar Talk with Legendary Underground Guitarist Terry Swope of JPT Scare Band
With his guitar heroics on full display on the latest JPT Scare Band album, Acid Blues is the White Man's Burden, we thought that is would be a good idea to catch up with legendary guitarist/vocalist Terry Swope. Throughout the album, Swope's plays the guitar like normal people use their voices in conversation. One minute, subdued and docile, laced with melancholy, then that voice becomes more impassioned, a little louder, as if Swope is becoming more animated and excited about the topic of discussion. One thing is for certain, Terry Swope is a six string talent that has been lurking in the shadows for far too long. Jamming with JPT Scare Band since the early '70's, Terry has been hailed as one of the most unheralded guitarists in the world, Swope is often compared to Hendrix, Page, and Clapton in terms of his fret fireworks.
Take a look at what he has to say.
Take a look at what he has to say.
Feelings of pleasure and belonging. Music in general and the guitar in particular felt good to me. It felt good to hold the instrument, to feel connected to something. It felt good to slowly gain knowledge and get some positive attention for the effort. Socially it was satisfying to literally have a group of peers to share and learn with.
How quickly did you pick up playing the guitar? Did guitar playing come naturally, or was there a struggle involved?
I picked up the basic chords and strumming techniques fairly quickly. I loved to play and it was not uncommon to spend five to six hours every day practicing. Some days I'd play seven to nine hours. Playing came naturally to me. I found I could pick out parts to songs and learn them. It was also a struggle. I would become frustrated by my inability to get my hands to reproduce what I heard in my head. That struggle continues to this day.
What was the first guitar you owned?It was an F-hole acoustic guitar that I bought in the record department of the Katz drugstore for $12. I don't remember the brand. Moments after this photo was taken I smashed the guitar against a telephone pole in the backyard.
Who are your primary influences? Guitarists, musicians?
There's a lot stars in the skies aren't there? Let me just name a few of my faves. Larry Carlton, Ritchie Blackmore, Jeff Beck, Allan Holdsworth, Albert King, Joe Pass, Jimi Hendrix, Scotty Anderson, the Beatles, Bela Bartok, Charles Ives and XTC. Locally there's Walt Chambers, Andy DeWitt, Janet Jameson, James Albright, Ken Lovern, Danny Embry and Joe Clyne.
What kind of gear do you use? Guitar? Amp? Effects?
Guitars: Taylor T-5, Fender Stratocaster, Fender Telecaster, Grosh Custom Carve, Eastman T185MX, J. Blackaster . . . Amps: Fender Deluxe, Vox AC50CPH, Bogner Alchemist, Bogner Metropolis, Carvin XV212, Egnater Rebel 20 . . . Effects: Boss GT8, Xotic AC Plus, TC Electronics Nova Modulator
Do you play in standard tuning or do you use an alternate tuning? If so, why?
I'm in standard tuning 99.9% of the time. I experimented early on with a variety of tunings but never stuck with them.
What piece of gear can't you live without? What''s your "secret" weapon?
If I could only have one effect it would be delay. An Echoplex would be the favored type. You can create
spaces, rhythms, layers and even harmonies. Truly the most versatile effect. If I told you what my secret weapon was it wouldn't be a secret anymore. Seriously I don't like to think of weapons when
I think of music. But I will say this - a great compressor gives every guitar a chance to get lucky.
When performing solos, are you aware of where you're going or are you playing purely by mood and feel?That depends on many different factors. If I'm working on somebody's project I'm going to be looking to please them. If I'm out gigging and covering other people's tunes I want to be in the same ballpark stylistically.
Left to my own devices anything is bound to happen. Music, and specifically the guitar, lends itself to all forms of mood and their communication. Or as Dr Karl Paulnack puts it, "Music allows us to move around those big invisible pieces of ourselves and rearrange our insides so that we can express what we feel even when we can't talk about it."
How has working with Paul (bass) and Jeff (drums) helped your playing? What effect has their abilities as musicians helped your development as a guitarist?
Probably the best thing about the Scareband is its lack of expectation. Throughout my career I've been involved in bands that were focused outward, on making money and being something customers wanted to hear. JPT is pretty much the opposite of that. It's all about what we want. Working with
Paul & Jeff is really not work. We're just great friends into banging out whatever pops into our heads. The vibe is pretty informal and open-ended when the tape starts rolling. In other words I'm free to play anything I want. Jeff & Paul are very supportive, generous musicians who just happen to love playing in the same cosmic sludge pit as me.
What words of wisdom do you have for young (and old) guitar players who are just getting started?
Number one - enjoy yourself. If you can do that then you're a success. Beyond that learn as much as you can and create as much as you can. As far as the instrument goes get something you can play. It does not matter early on what your guitar might look like or might sound like. All that really matters is that you can put your hands on it and it feels good.
You can hear the magic of Terry's guitar playing on the latest JPT Scare Band album, "Acid Blues is the White Man's Burden."
Buy here: JPT Scare Band - Acid Blues
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